Showing posts with label Corporate Prayer. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Corporate Prayer. Show all posts

Thursday, 30 October 2014

Response To Feedback On "Leading Prayer Meetings"

I have had a good response to my YouTube video series on Leading Prayer Meetings.

I have had some feedback and questions and here are some short responses:

Q. I have never been to a prayer meeting like you describe but God still turns up.
A. True. He turns up whenever two or more gather in His name.

Q. As a charismatic, where do the gifts of the Holy Spirit fit in with this type of meeting?
A. If it is an open, public meeting then according to the Apostle Paul, speaking in tongues should not be done but instead the gift of prophecy should be used.
I have found though that it has become so establishment now that most people don't get offended by speaking in tongues so long as an explanation is given. In practice it can also be good to use word of knowledge and word of wisdom to help any visitors to find the reality of the supernatural existence and power of God but there should be more appropriate venues and meeting types for evangelism. The core basis of effective prayer is unity and praying according to His will. My point in the series is that every church needs the power that only comes when people pray and if the time set aside for prayer is limited then we must do what we can to maximize its effectiveness.

Q. In your YouTube series you have such an organised plan in how and what to pray it doesn't appear to leave any room for the leading of the Holy Spirit.
A. It may look that way but I encourage that all participants be open and willing to be led by the Holy Spirit WITHIN the framework of the meeting.
The Apostle Paul told us that everything should be done "properly and in order" but that doesn't mean we can't have flexibility. So long as it is not disruptive and drawing attention to self (I have seen many people who claim to be moving in the Holy Spirit simply use that as an excuse to be the centre of attention) and it is "on topic" and relevant, then that input is welcome.
Before you get offended remember that self control is one of the primary expressions of the fruit of the Holy Spirit and "seeking not its own" is a primary expression of Christian love (Agape) as mentioned in 1 Corinthians 13. People who hijack prayer meetings to suit their own agenda are not being led by the Holy Spirit but are being divisive and are not welcome in any of my private meetings. If they appear at a public meeting then they are not ejected immediately but are publicly reminded of these principles and if after that they don't respond in a favourable manner are then asked to leave. They have the option go find/create another meeting somewhere else where they feel they can fit in rather than enforcing their agenda on us. Remember, this YouTube series was specifically intended to address some of these issues and bring a responsible balance back into the contemporary church and is not intended for everyone although it is based on the pattern that Jesus taught us specifically about corporate prayer.

Q. How will people learn how to pray at home if they don't have an example in the prayer meeting?
A. Very good point. This is the main drawback with only using the approach I outlined in the YouTube series. This teaching is primarily geared to corporate gatherings of those who already know how to pray and can be very powerful and effective. One other thing that I did not mention was that Jesus taught us a different way to pray in private to how we should pray as a group (corporately). I intend to cover that in detail at a later time.

Thanks for your feedback everyone. Keep up the good work and keep questioning until you define what's best for yourselves in your situation. 

Cheers, 

Pastor Garth.


Tuesday, 8 July 2014

Leading Prayer Meetings - In This Manner Pray


There are lots of people today coming up with all sorts of wild and wonderful ways to relate to God but the emphasis is mostly on the individual. But how did Jesus teach us to relate to God? To pray?

Many times I have attended prayer meetings and it seems that the leaders don't know what to do and it ends up either being a shambles or I take over (with permission) and lead it to the relief of the poor person who has been thrown in the deep end without any real guidance or training. I know that sounds rude but if you have an audience with the King you had better go in prepared and confident or you are wasting everyone's time (In a corporate sense anyway - personal prayer and devotions are different altogether). 

It is important that when we get together to pray that we are in unity and that we have someone to lead and that there is a clear agenda, plan or structure to make the most of the time together. There is a lot of talk about being led by the Holy Spirit but we can still do that WITHIN the structure or there will be chaos and a lack of direction and unity.

In Matthew 6:7 Jesus said "And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words." and in verse 9 He said "In this manner, therefore, pray:".

It is clear that Jesus didn't want us just following a form and repeating words like a parrot. He wants us to understand what we are doing and keep it real. So in this series of videos I am going to look at the principles behind the Lord's Prayer that, when understood, enable a leader to keep the people engaged and focused for a sustained period of time while at the same time covering the essentials and being spiritually productive.

Hope you enjoy.